Wednesday, August 4, 2010

Re: Django, Rails but a cost to pay ?

I don't believe anybody *was* offended - the OP asked "What do you think
about this post ?", and he got sincere responses that would, if taken to
heart, help to improve that post.

regards
Steve

On 8/4/2010 11:35 AM, Sithembewena Lloyd Dube wrote:
> Surprising that anybody would be offended by the OP's post. Why do
> people so readily see red? As for the "think special" part, one would
> have to be pretty intent on getting upset to miss the sarcasm.
>
> The English is not perfect, but this isn't a language course.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:24 PM, didier rano <didier.rano@gmail.com
> <mailto:didier.rano@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Why Google has updated Youtube framework for Java, .NET and PHP, but
> not for Python ?
>
> It was a real question. I need it for my Python project. And, I
> don't understand why Google choose to update Java, .NET and PHP apis
> and not Python. It is my "cost to pay", because Python is not yet a
> mainstream language.
>
> I know these constraints, but my project will remain in Python.
> Actually, fun is more important for me.
>
> Some tools like pip, virtualenv, fabric, celery, twisted, tornado...
> make me confident about my choice.
>
> Finally, for me, Python or/and Django are not always a perfect
> choice. But, it is just an opinion.
>
> 2010/8/4 Eugene Wee <crystalrecursion@gmail.com
> <mailto:crystalrecursion@gmail.com>>
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:21 AM, didier rano
> <didier.rano@gmail.com <mailto:didier.rano@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > But, not all good developers
> > are able to use efficiently dynamic languages.
>
> I suspect that there will always be a programming language for which
> there exists a good developer who is currently unable to use it
> efficiently. Programming languages are tools, and not everyone is
> engaged in the same tasks, hence some will be more proficient with
> some tools than others. So, find a good developer who is currently
> able to use the programming language (and platform, framework, etc)
> efficiently, or wait for for your good developer to catch up (which
> will happen eventually, if he/she is any good).
>
> > And, sometimes, to choose an open source framework could be
> more problematic
> > than proprietary frameworks.
>
> And, sometimes, to choose a proprietary framework could be more
> problematic than open source frameworks. You should show by reasoned
> argument that choosing an open source framework tends to lead to
> more
> problems than choosing a proprietary framework, otherwise you
> are just
> making a vague assertion that does not really mean anything.
>
> > Why Google has updated Youtube framework for Java, .NET and
> PHP, but not for
> > Python ?
>
> Why did Google support Python for App Engine before Java? Why
> does it
> still not support .NET and PHP? It really is quite ironic to see
> that
> you wrote that '"Religions" wars are useless' :)
>
> Regards,
> Eugene
>
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