Sunday, December 25, 2016

Re: How do you recommend to use Hebrew gender-related translations?

Thanks, I think contextual markers is a solution, where they can be either "female", "male" or "other".


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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Avraham Serour <tovmeod@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Fergus Cameron <tofergus@gmail.com> wrote:
I personally try to use language agnostic message IDs and translate
everything (i.e. including English).  Your idea of appending the
gender is along the same lines and seems logical.

On 22/12/2016, Uri Even-Chen <uri@speedy.net> wrote:
> Hi Django users,
>
> How do you recommend to use Hebrew gender-related translations?
>
> For example, here are the choices for diet in Speedy Net (notice it's
> currently only used in Speedy Match, but it's part of the profile of Speedy
> Net):
>
> ```
> class User(Entity, PermissionsMixin, AbstractBaseUser):
> ....
>     GENDER_FEMALE = 1
>     GENDER_MALE = 2
>     GENDER_OTHER = 3
>     GENDER_CHOICES = (
>         (GENDER_FEMALE, _('Female')),
>         (GENDER_MALE, _('Male')),
>         (GENDER_OTHER, _('Other')),
>     )
>
>     DIET_UNKNOWN   = 0
>     DIET_VEGAN      = 1
>     DIET_VEGETARIAN = 2
>     DIET_CARNIST    = 3
>     DIET_CHOICES = (
>         (DIET_UNKNOWN, _('Please select...')),
>         (DIET_VEGAN, _('Vegan (eats only plants and fungi)')),
>         (DIET_VEGETARIAN, _('Vegetarian (doesn\'t eat fish and meat)')),
>         (DIET_CARNIST, _('Carnist (eats animals)'))
>     )
> ....
>     gender = models.SmallIntegerField(verbose_name=_('I am'),
> choices=GENDER_CHOICES)
>     diet = models.SmallIntegerField(verbose_name=_('diet'),
> choices=DIET_CHOICES, default=DIET_UNKNOWN)
> ```
>
> And here are the translations:
> ```
> #: .\accounts\models.py:151
> msgid "Vegan (eats only plants and fungi)"
> msgstr "טבעוני/ת (אוכל/ת רק צמחים ופטריות)"
>
> #: .\accounts\models.py:152
> msgid "Vegetarian (doesn't eat fish and meat)"
> msgstr "צמחוני/ת (לא אוכל/ת דגים ובשר)"
>
> #: .\accounts\models.py:153
> msgid "Carnist (eats animals)"
> msgstr "קרניסט/ית (אוכל/ת חיות)"
> ```
>
> The correct translations in Hebrew are per gender (female, male or other)
> but in English they are the same. How do you recommend to program it? I
> thought about adding " [female]", " [male]" or " [other]" suffixes to the
> strings and then removing them in the English translations. But then
> English would also require a translation. Is there a better approach? And
> how do I write the model when this feature is gender-related?
>
> The same question is related to any site which has a language where the
> text is gender-related, and a language where it is not.
>
> You can see the code on GitHub: https://github.com/urievenchen/speedy-net
>
> Thanks,
> Uri.
>
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