Monday, June 19, 2023

Re: Suggestions for Reducing Spam

Great points Abhishek, Paul, and John,

+1 for the separate group with a bit of nuance:

The openai api integration might consider rerouting content to different groups rather than blatantly marking a message that someone has taken effort to write as "bad". 

I think that a lot of the Django developers in this group may be looking for roles, and we for one are always looking to hire good Django developers and lifelong learners.

However, I think that the protocol has to be made clear:
- post in this group A if you are hiring django developers (like me)
- post in this group B if you are seeking a django role 
- post in this group C if you are seeking a solution to a django issue

The only problem is that there are borderline cases. Sometimes people are facing a django issue, like recently I have heard about templates being slow, even though Django does optimize template loading. Someone facing that might try to debug it themselves seeking just informational help (which is what I did) but in other cases, they might be open to working with a developer from this group on an hourly basis (which is the kind of thing I have done with developers before).

Hence it's important to consider the nuances, as we might lose people from the community if we make things too difficult. At the same time, the content quality and protocols should be clear. 

And finally, kindness and forgiveness to all people should be highly encouraged.

Regards,
Stanford CS · Northwestern HCI


On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 11:45 AM John Ayodele <ayodelejohn40@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow!
The idea is totally beautiful.

I go for your idea.

On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 5:14 PM Paul Kudla <paul@scom.ca> wrote:

a django jobs posting group would probably be best

i admit i have used this group for looking for professional help etc but
always move off to the side if someone respond's

i too have seen recently google looking for programmers etc which has
nothing to do with this group ??

fyi



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On 6/18/2023 12:04 PM, Abhishek Choudhury wrote:
> Hi Django User Group Admins,
>
> I hope this email finds you well.
>
> I'm writing this to discuss the recent influx of spam emails in our
> group. As we know, this group is a great resource for Django developers
> to learn, share, and collaborate. However, in the past few months, we've
> seen an increase in emails that are unrelated to Django, such as job
> postings and promotional materials.
>
> I understand that some people may want to use the group to post job
> listings, but I believe that these emails are disruptive and detract
> from the purpose of the group. I've also noticed that some people are
> responding to these emails, which only encourages more spam.
>
> I've been thinking about ways to address this issue, and I have a few
> ideas. One idea is to create a separate Google group for job postings.
> This would allow people who are looking for jobs to connect with each
> other, while keeping the Django_users group focused on Django-related
> content.
>
> Another idea is to develop a Zapier + OpenAI plugin that can detect the
> type of email (sentiment analysis) and then mark it as spam or
> non-Django related, add automated reply and mute it. This would help to
> automatically filter out spam emails, so that they don't clutter up our
> group's inbox.
>
> I'm not sure which of these ideas is the best solution, but I wanted to
> get your thoughts on the matter. What do you think about the recent
> influx of spam emails in our group? Do you have any suggestions for how
> we can address this issue?
>
> I'm happy to help in any way I can. Please let me know if you have any
> questions.
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> With kind regards,
> Abhishek Choudhury
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